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Ephedrine & Caffeine. Does it Work? Is It Safe?

by Mark McManus on September 22, 2011

Ephedrine as a weight loss supplement was banned in the US on April 12th 2004.

The death of Steve Bechler put the nail in the coffin for ephedrine/ephedra.

However, a forensic investigation by New York City Medical Examiner Dr. Michael M. Baden concluded that Mr Bechler,

“…died of a heat stroke precipitated by his morbid obesity, high blood pressure and heart disease, adverse weather conditions, physical exertion, and inadequate screening, monitoring and medical supervision.”

However, if the media gets involved and puts the blame on a certain supplement, you can almost certainly predict that a ban is coming.

Does the Ephedrine/Caffeine Stack Work?

We’ll come back to the safety issue in a minute.

Ephedrine/Caffeine is not needed when on gain cycles. However, in Total Six Pack Abs, it is one of my recommended supplements. Is it necessary? No. Does it help? Yes, a little.

In the book I say the following…

Before it was banned, ephedrine was about the only supplement that did indeed work to accelerate fat-loss. Ephedrine was to be taken with caffeine and sometimes aspirin in what was called the E.C.A. stack.
The dosage is 25 milligrams of ephedrine and 200 milligrams of caffeine to be taken together…. The caffeine has no real effect on its own but works to enhance the effectiveness of the ephedrine.

Clinical research has consistently verified the effectiveness of EC(A) on fat loss over placebos.

There is no doubt that this combo works. Also, there is another benefit that is rarely mentioned – its effect on hunger levels. The only time you should even be thinking of using and E/C stack is near the tail end of a cut. Your body is really starting to tighten up, but your hunger levels are also increasing.

Ephedrine/Caffeine really does help in blunting that hunger signal as well as giving you the physical and mental energy to do whatever you need to do during the day.

Again, it is NOT necessary for success, but will help if you want it. I only had to cut for 2 weeks last summer (2010), and I haven’t needed to cut at all since then (this is the first summer in years when I haven’t cut). So I haven’t taken any ephedrine since my last longer cut in summer 2009, which only lasted 4 weeks. :)

Note: The reason I haven’t needed to cut is because of something I mentioned in my last article; I am developing and testing a brand new way to combine so-called “bulking” and “cutting”, allowing you to do both at the same time. But back to the ephedrine…

Is It Safe?

In the following study researchers analyzed data on 257,236 Danish patients prescribed a combo of ephedrine and caffeine from 1995-2002 [1] That’s 7 years of E/C supplementation. The conclusion was that these patients did not have increased rates of heart attacks or strokes.

Considering you’re probably going to supplement with it for a couple of weeks once a year, I reckon you’ll be ok.

It’s your choice, but don’t expect miracles. All it will do is raise your metabolism a little and help you burn a little more fat; the vast majority of your fat-burning will still come from diet and exercise. Like I stated previously, the main benefit for me was actually its effect on hunger.

Where To Buy Ephedrine

You can still purchase ephedrine lawfully, just not as a weight-loss supplement. Ephedrine is also available as a decongestant for asthmatics and can be purchased online. So if you want it, you can get it.

Century Supplements sell it here. Although they say they don’t ship to US customers, I’m sure someone can enlighten us in the comments section below where they get their ephedrine in the US. Bear in mind that these are 8mg pills. 3 need to be taken at a time for the recommended dose.

You can easily get the 200mg caps of caffeine, and it’s very cheap. Right now at MyProtein you can get 100 caps for just £3.99, and at Amazon you can bag 100 caps for $5.99.

I want to reiterate that this article is not a recommendation for ephedrine usage. It’s your choice. If you’re a kid under 18, you’ve no business even looking at the stuff. I haven’t taken any in a couple of years and there’s just no need for me to take it at all ever again.

You can and WILL succeed without it by using an effective fat loss diet and workout program like TSPA.

Stay Motivated!

Mark

[1] Use of a prescribed ephedrine/caffeine combination and the risk of serious cardiovascular events: a registry-based case-crossover study

P.S. Andreas just wrote a kick-ass article over at MuscleHacker, “MANS Diet, Insulin and the Fat Phobia

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{ 12 comments }

1 Nathan Lee September 22, 2011 at 1:43 pm

Although it works very well, ephedra is a banned substance in most natural bodybuilding organizations. So if you plan on competing anytime soon I’d stay away from it.

2 Tom September 22, 2011 at 3:55 pm

Hi Mark,

I’ve been using the PAGG stack from 4hourbody for the past week. Working decently in my opinion.

Policosonal
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Green Tea Extract with Egcg
and Garlicin.

3 John A Davis September 22, 2011 at 5:53 pm

In US you can order it from http://www.fitshop.ca, which is in Canada and is sold for asthma and allergy sufferers. The postage is way more than the actual supplements so order a bunch.

The PAGG stack costs $60 a month. Also, this link says Protein will nullify the ECGC in the Green Tea Extract. PAGG is NOTHING like the ECA stack. Friggin’ will turn you into a crack head if you aren’t careful. But it does burn fat, cut down on hunger, and makes you super friendly and motivated.

4 John A Davis September 22, 2011 at 5:54 pm

Oops, here’s the link about ECGC and protein. Great website.
http://www.ergo-log.com/egcgprotein.html

5 Steve P September 22, 2011 at 6:30 pm

Boy am I glad I don’t subscribe to the newsletters anymore.

This is the second article in recent weeks that blatantly and negligently ignores side effects of a regulated substance and encourages it’s use to the general public.

I’m not saying that it can’t be used safely, only that you should only use it under a Doctor’s supervision. If you have even the slightest issues surrounding mental disorders, cardio vascular disorders, or are overweight, or taking other stimulants, this stuff can be extremely dangerous.

The side effects include,
Nervousness, anxiety, dizziness, headache, nausea, loss of appetite, or trouble sleeping; and more seriously, chest pain, unusually fast or irregular heartbeat, vomiting, tremor/shakiness, sweating, severe weight loss, difficult or painful urination, stomach pain.

There is not magic pill for getting in shape people. If you value your long term health, do it through a balanced diet and exercise.

I’m amazed at how blind MuscleHack is choosing to be towards the serious side effects of controlled substances. Just because you can find one report by a ‘pro-drug’ website doesn’t make it good for you.

It’s like MuscleHack is stuck in the ’70′s with it’s medical advice….

6 Mark McManus September 22, 2011 at 7:06 pm

@John. Thanks for the site recommendation for US readers :)
@Steve P. You should prob read an article before commenting on it. “I want to reiterate that this article is not a recommendation for ephedrine usage.” Did you see that part? Did you also see where I say twice that you WILL succeed without it? The other article you’re probably talking about was the steroid article on MuscleHacker. The article with the disclaimer at the top and my comment below it saying that I am against steroid abuse. You must be of the opinion that some things just can’t be discussed out in the open without it being a recommendation. No-one is in a position to tell anyone else what they can and can’t discuss. As for you unsubscribing, that was a good move. I don’t mind losing readers who don’t actually read the articles.

7 mikey September 22, 2011 at 9:04 pm

Wow Steve P. U missed the whole point… If you dont like this site dont read it.. I have danced with this stuff.. and its very dangerous.. Its a drug infact. Stay away from it.

8 Davy September 23, 2011 at 12:39 am

where in new york can i buy depo testoterone shots without a prescription?

9 Sean September 23, 2011 at 5:26 am

Mark,
My doctor prescribes me EAC capsules they consist of 30mg ephedrine, 100mg each of asprin & caffeine. I have taken occasionally a couple at a time and do not feel any ill effects at all. People with heart issues or anyone that is seriously obese may have issues as it can give heart pulpatations if used excessively.
I only occasionally take them and do not make it a regular habit, my intent is to give me a pick me up if i plan on a huge day at the gym

10 Mark McManus September 23, 2011 at 10:04 am

@Davy. Those questions aren’t for my site. If anyone answers, it will be deleted.
@Sean. Is he giving you this for respiratory problems? I agree that only people with existing issues or taking excessive amounts will get into trouble; but that applies to almost everything.

11 David September 23, 2011 at 4:05 pm

In the US, you can get ephedrine in the form of BroncAid, which is a temporary treatment for asthma. You can buy it at any Walgreens. You will have to show your driver’s license at the pharmacy counter, but that’s because ephedrine and pseudoephedrine can be used to cook meth, so the id is used to identify people who buy in bulk.

12 Mike Huber September 23, 2011 at 11:36 pm

I think the biggest problem was that ephedrine was abused. I worked with some guys that ate Stackers, when they had ephedrine, like candy. Not Good!!! Like Mark has stated, you Do Not Need it. @Davy… You don’t need that crap, just following one of Mark’s workout programs and a diet plan for a month. You will be very surprised and become Hooked on MuscleHacking!!! All Natural Of Course!!

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